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The gap between the rich and the poor, the North and the South is greater than ever before. And yet, the North has a rich history of world-changing industry and innovation. So, what’s happened? How have we got here and what are we going to do about it?

On This is the North, we explore these questions. With expert guests, including academics, local business people, and charity leaders, we discuss why the poverty gap matters and what we can do about it.

Hosted by Alison Dunn, charity Chief Executive and dedicated social justice advocate, This Is The North is a podcast that comes from the North, is about the North, and celebrates our creativity – past, present and future.

We’ll ask how can we all use our influence to create a better future for the North…

Ep 24. Business, Legacy, and Innovation: A Conversation with Charlie Hoult

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In this compelling episode, Alison delves into the heart of Northern entrepreneurship with Charlie Hoult, a visionary fourth-generation businessman whose family legacy has helped shape the North East’s business landscape. As the driving force behind Hoult’s Yard Business Centre, Charlie embodies the transformative spirit of modern entrepreneurship while honouring the rich industrial heritage of his family’s century-old enterprise, which began with Maling’s Pottery.

Through intimate conversation, Charlie unveils the delicate balance of preserving family legacy while embracing innovation and change. His journey from traditional industry to creating a dynamic business hub reflects the broader evolution of the North’s economy. The discussion explores how Hoults Yard has adapted to modern workplace demands, pioneering hybrid work solutions and fostering a vibrant community of entrepreneurs. Charlie’s involvement with the National Innovation Centre for Data demonstrates his commitment to positioning the North East at the forefront of technological advancement.

This episode transcends typical business discourse by examining the intersection of family values, entrepreneurial spirit, and regional development. Charlie’s insights into community-building offer a blueprint for sustainable economic growth in the North. His story exemplifies how traditional business wisdom, when combined with forward-thinking innovation, can create lasting positive change in our communities and challenge the systemic barriers facing Northern development.

023: Gambling with Lives: James Grimes on Addiction, Advocacy, and Systemic Reform

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In this compelling episode, Alison speaks with James Grimes, Head of Prevention at Gambling with Lives, about the devastating and often-overlooked crisis of gambling addiction. This epidemic has claimed countless lives and continues to disproportionately harm communities in the North of England.

James shares his deeply personal journey, charting a path from despair to redemption, and exposes how a seemingly innocuous pastime can spiral into a life-altering compulsion. Together, they unpack the societal and systemic forces that allow gambling harms to persist—from the legacy of the 2005 Gambling Act to the alarming rise of youth gambling. They also highlight the powerful work of Gambling with Lives, a charity founded by bereaved families advocating for reform and offering support to those affected.

This episode dives into the ethical and social dimensions of gambling-related harms, drawing parallels to Big Tobacco and spotlighting the urgent need for systemic change. Through initiatives like The Big Step campaign and grassroots recovery programmes, James and Alison reveal a hopeful path forward—a way to reclaim lives and challenge an industry that profits from vulnerability.

This isn’t just a conversation about addiction; it’s a wake-up call. It’s a rallying cry for communities, leaders, and policymakers to confront entrenched systems, rethink the way we address gambling harms, and fight for a future where no one is left behind.

022: Exploring Worlds Through Words: A Conversation with Anne Cleeves

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In this episode, Alison had the privilege of speaking with the brilliant Ann Cleeves, best known for her globally acclaimed crime fiction. Their conversation covered her journey from an avid library-goer to an award-winning author, and her commitment to the communities she writes about. Ann’s work captures not only the suspense of crime and mystery but also the underlying social issues, empathy, and resilience found in real life. They delve into Ann’s early life, the variety of jobs that shaped her perspective, and her pathway to publication. She shared insights into the importance of authentic settings, drawing on her love for the North East and how it plays a pivotal role in her stories. Ann’s novels, like Raven Black, and her recent bestseller, The Dark Wives, explore complex characters and themes that resonate far beyond the page, touching on real societal issues.

021: Bridging the Gap: Sir David Bell on Unlocking Talent and Creating Opportunity in the North

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In this episode, Alison had the privilege of sitting down with Sir David Bell, Vice-Chancellor and CEO of Sunderland University. Sir David’s career in education and public service is nothing short of remarkable. From his early days as a headteacher to serving as Permanent Secretary at the Department for Education, and now leading Sunderland University, he’s been consistently driven by a deep commitment to expanding education, creating opportunity, and strengthening community at every turn.

They explore Sir David’s diverse work across politics, education, and his impactful role with Carbon Homes in social housing. Sir David also offered a rare insider’s perspective on the critical role of civil servants during political transitions, unpacking what it truly means to “speak truth to power” and how to navigate those pivotal moments of leadership with integrity and purpose.

020: Driving Disability Inclusion in Business: A Conversation with Katie Talikowska

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In today’s episode, Alison speaks with Katie Talikowska, CEO of The Valuable 500, a global movement focused on making disability a boardroom priority. The Valuable 500 is working with over 500 global businesses, including household names like Apple, Google, and Microsoft, representing a collective workforce of more than 23 million employees and a combined market cap of 23 trillion US dollars. Together, Katie and Alison dive into the challenges of driving systemic change, exploring the cultural differences and barriers that often stand in the way of genuine inclusion. Katie highlights the importance of inclusive leadership, transparent reporting, and authentic representation. We round off our conversation by looking ahead to the SYNC 25 Accountability Summit in Tokyo, a pivotal event for tracking progress in disability inclusion on a global scale.

019: Behind the Curtain: How Politics Really Works (ft. Jo Tanner)

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In this fascinating episode, Alison engages in a candid, thought-provoking conversation with Jo Tanner, a renowned political strategist who has worked across the political spectrum and is a regular commentator on current affairs. Jo began her career as a broadcast journalist before leading the PR efforts for Boris Johnson’s 2008 Mayoral campaign. Today, she’s a familiar face on programmes like Good Morning Britain, BBC’s Politics Live, Channel 4 News, and more.

Jo takes us behind the scenes of political strategy, explaining how her work has shaped both Conservative and Labour campaigns. Together, they explore pressing issues such as public expectations from the government, the challenges of devolution, and why representation matters for building a fairer society. Jo also shares her passions for mental health advocacy, elevating women’s voices, and grassroots football and education initiatives. This conversation underscores the power of diverse perspectives and the importance of long-term thinking in today’s political landscape.

018: Our Altered Life: Charlie Beswick

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In this deeply moving episode, Alison sits down with Charlie Beswick, a passionate advocate for parent carers and the author of Our Altered Life. Charlie opens up about her emotional journey raising her twin boys, particularly Harry, who was born with Goldenhar syndrome and later diagnosed with autism. The conversation dives into the complexities of parenting a child with special needs, the impact on family dynamics, and the societal judgments they often face. Charlie also shares her professional evolution from teaching to advocacy, focusing on educating employers about the unique skills and needs of parent carers. This episode offers powerful insights into the emotional and practical realities of raising a child with special needs, highlighting resilience, community support, and enduring hope.

017: Standing Together: A Collective Response to the Recent UK Riots and Community Resilience

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In this episode, Alison joins a panel discussion with Steve Beharall, CEO of the Newcastle United Foundation, and Dean Titterton, CEO of YMCA North Tyneside, to address the recent rioting triggered by the tragic killing of three young girls in Southport. Guest host Neil Gow, Strategy and Research Manager at Citizens Advice Gateshead, guides us through a panel discussion focused on the profound impact of the recent UK riots on organisations, employees, and communities, emphasising the importance of safety, solidarity, and resilience. They share their efforts in supporting affected individuals and adapting services, while also focusing on combating misinformation and fostering community cohesion. Their conversation underscores the need for a united response to combat Islamophobia, racism, and societal disconnection, advocating for collective action and the role of the charitable sector in inspiring positive change.

016: Empowering Change: Fatima Whitbread from Care to Champion

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In this episode, Alison sits down with Fatima Whitbread, a celebrated Olympian, world champion, MBE recipient, and tireless advocate for children in the care system. Fatima’s story is a powerful journey from a challenging childhood in care to becoming a world-renowned athlete. She discusses her ongoing campaign to reform the care system and her upcoming summit aimed at driving systemic change. This conversation sheds light on the critical issues faced by children in care and underscores the necessity of creating supportive and nurturing environments.

015: Mind the Gap: Exploring Gender Equality

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In this episode, Alison speaks with Alice Wiseman, Director of Public Health for Gateshead and Newcastle, and Dr. Julie Scanlon, an expert in women’s inclusion. Together, they delve into the persisting gender inequalities in health, employment, and social roles. The conversation uncovers the impact of recent socio-economic challenges such as the COVID-19 pandemic, austerity, and the cost-of-living crisis on women, the intersectionality of gender with other identity aspects, and highlights the urgent need for policy and cultural changes to ensure a more equitable society.

014: Vulture Capitalism: Grace Blakeley on Corporate Crimes, Backdoor Bailouts and the Death of Freedom

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In this episode, Alison welcomes the insightful and provocative political commentator and writer, Grace Blakeley. Grace discusses her latest book, ‘Vulture Capitalism,’ which delves into the intricate and often opaque mechanisms of capitalist economies. This episode reveals startling insights into the concentration of power, the lack of accountability, and the formidable influence of financial institutions and corporations in perpetuating these systems. Moreover, it highlights grassroots movements and alternative models as pathways to a fairer society. Join us for an in-depth exploration of systemic issues and practical strategies for collective change.

013: Building Fences, Not Just Ambulances: David Smith’s Journey from Charity Leader to Political Candidate

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In this episode, Alison speaks with David Smith, CEO of Oasis Community Housing and the Labour candidate for North Northumberland. The discussion delves into David’s extensive career, his motivations for entering politics, and his vision for North Northumberland and the UK. Alison and David explore the systemic challenges of homelessness, the importance of preventative measures, and David’s personal experiences that shape his political views.

012: Brian Aitken: Transforming the North East Through Journalism

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In this episode, Alison speaks with Brian Aitken, former editor of the ‘Journal’ newspaper and founder of the new online magazine ‘The QT’. The discussion covers Brian’s extensive journalism career, his successful campaigns that boosted the North East region, and his transition to media consultancy, including work with Newcastle United Football Club. They explore the importance of credible journalism, Brian’s campaigns, and the positive impact of his work on the community. Additionally, Brian shares the vision behind ‘The QT’, emphasising fair, balanced news and its potential influence on the North East’s socio-political landscape. The episode underscores the necessity for regional advocacy and engagement through quality journalism.

011: Empowering the North – A Conversation on Financial Inclusion and Community Wealth Building

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In this episode of ‘This is the North’ podcast, host Alison Dunn, supported by Society Matters Community Interest Company, engages with Andrew Haig (CEO of Newcastle Building Society), Nancy Doyle-Hall (Executive Director of the Virgin Money Foundation), and Emma Black (Co-founder of GB Bank and CEO of Cascade Cash Management) to discuss the role of financial institutions in supporting economic development and wealth creation in local communities, especially in the north of England.

The conversation explores how these institutions contribute to a more equal and inclusive society, the significance of financial literacy, and their initiatives to support low-income individuals and small businesses. The panellists also discuss future plans for engaging with local government and not-for-profits through devolution to address economic disparities, aiming for a fairer distribution of wealth and a more inclusive financial environment.

010: Nicola Headlam: Reviving the North – How to Tackle Economic Disparities and Managed Decline

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In this episode, Alison is joined by Nicola Headlam, a renowned independent economic adviser and former Head of the Northern Powerhouse. Together, they delve into the intricacies of policy and politics from the era of Thatcherism and Lord Heseltine to today’s complex geopolitical landscape.

009: Jamie Driscoll (Independent Mayoral Candidate)

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In this episode, Alison is joined by current serving North of Tyne Mayor and Independent North East Mayoral Candidate, Jamie Driscoll.

Jamie shares insights from his tenure as Mayor, focusing on his achievements despite the challenges posed by the pandemic. With 92% of his manifesto pledges already delivered, including unifying the region under a single Mayoral Combined Authority, Jamie’s approach to governance is rooted in pragmatism and a deep-seated belief in public service.

From his early days leaving school at 16, to becoming a mature student and later a software developer, Jamie’s varied life experiences have shaped his politics into what he describes as common sense rather than left or right-wing ideology. He emphasises the importance of democracy, public NHS, wealth tax, common ownership of utilities, universal basic income, proportional representation, and more—policies aimed at creating a fairer society for all.

008: Guy Renner-Thompson (Conservative Mayoral Candidate)

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In this episode, Alison is joined by Northumberland County Councillor and Portfolio Holder for Children’s Services, Guy Renner-Thompson. Guy is also the Conservative Party Candidate for the North East Mayoral Elections.

Guy shares his vision and plans for the North East, highlighting the region’s historical significance and its potential for a prosperous future. With a focus on leveraging the new Devolution Deal, Guy aims to usher in a new era of growth and opportunity, focusing on investment designed to shift power closer to the communities it aims to benefit.

Born and raised in the North East, and a local businessman, Guy brings a personal commitment to advocating for the region’s needs. His track record as a Councillor for education in Northumberland, where he has improved school performance, demonstrates his dedication to enhancing local education and training facilities to the regions needs.

007: Kim McGuinness (Labour Mayoral Candidate)

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In this episode, Alison is joined by Kim McGuinness, Northumbria Police and Crime Commissioner and Labour’s North East Mayoral Candidate.

Kim shares her personal journey and vision for the North East, emphasising the importance of creating opportunities for everyone to succeed in the region she loves. Growing up in the West End of Newcastle in a working-class family, Kim experienced firsthand the challenges and hardships faced by many in the region. Her story is a testament to the impact of community support and government investment, highlighting her commitment to empowering communities and delivering real opportunities for working-class people.

As Northumbria’s Police and Crime Commissioner, Kim has prioritised fighting the effects of poverty and deprivation, bolstering police presence, investing in youth, and revitalising community hubs. Now, standing for mayor, she aims to champion regional pride and ambition, advocate for the North East on a national level, and create a more inclusive society where everyone can thrive.

006: The Northumbrian Enlightenment

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In this episode, Alison is joined by Dan Jackson, Charlie Charlton, and Steve Beharall. Each is renowned in their field, offering a multidimensional exploration of the North’s rich heritage:

  • Dan Jackson is distinguished not only for his celebrated work, “The Northumbrians,” but also for his impactful roles as the Director of Policy, Involvement & Stakeholder Affairs at NHS North East and North Cumbria, and Vice Chair of Beamish Museum. Dan’s deep dive into the region’s history and culture, combined with his hands-on experience in policy and community involvement, uniquely positions him to discuss the complexities of the North’s past, present, and future.
  • Charlie Charlton, a prominent advocate for the North East, brings her extensive experience as a journalist, presenter, and Community Engagement Manager at Newcastle Helix to the forefront of our discussion. Her work epitomises a passionate commitment to highlighting the North East’s uniqueness, addressing the North-South divide, and fostering community development through innovation and engagement.
  • Steve Beharall, leading the Newcastle United Foundation as CEO, showcases the transformative impact of sports and community programmes across the North East. His leadership in leveraging the foundation’s platform to address social issues, promote education, and enhance community well-being illustrates the critical role sports can play in societal change.

005: Innovation is a Mindset

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In this episode, Alison is joined by Kevin Telford, Robin Ferris, and Estelle Blanks:

  • Kevin Telford, is a Strategic Adviser and Future FS Strategy Consultant at Monstarlab, and Co-Founder of Finpac.
  • Robin Ferris, CEO of Bankuet, the UK’s first zero-waste digital food donation platform, on a mission to ensure food banks get what they need, when they need it.
  • Estelle Blanks, a Non-Executive Director at Nexus, Member of the CBI Innovation Council, and CEO of the Innovation SuperNetwork, a unique North East network supporting businesses in growth and innovation.

004: Devolution – The Social Obligation

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In this episode, Alison is joined by a distinguished panel: John Johnston, Dr. Henry Kippin, and Sheena Ramsey.

  • John Johnston, CEO of Bernicia and influential figure on the Council of North East Chamber of Commerce’s board, brings a wealth of leadership and regional development insight.
  • Dr. Henry Kippin, the driving force as Interim Chief Executive of The North East Mayoral Combined Authority (NEMCA), shares his vision for the region’s future.
  • Sheena Ramsey, Gateshead Council’s then Chief Executive, represents one of the seven local authorities integral to NEMCA, offering a unique perspective on local governance and community impact.

Together, they unravel the complexities of the north-south divide, exploring the pivotal role of devolution and the “levelling up” agenda in addressing longstanding socio-economic disparities.

003: Suicide – A Means of Death, Not a Cause of Death

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This podcast is about disparities in opportunity and their outcomes between the North and the South. Currently, the Northeast continues to be the region with the highest rate of suicide in the UK. Whilst we’ll be talking today around some of the broader policy and systemic issues related to suicide, it’s vital to acknowledge that behind the alarming statistics lie real people. Each with a story, experiences, and challenges that led them to that desperate juncture.

In today’s thought-provoking episode, Alison is joined by two remarkable guests:

  • Paul Vittles, the Chief Facilitator at the Zero Suicide Society Transformation Programme, situated within the Jordan Legacy Community Interest Company.
  • Evelina Dzimanaviciute, a distinguished behavioural neuroscientist, organisational well-being consultant, and executive coach at Elite Mind.

002: The Housing Crisis

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In this episode, we discuss Britain’s housing crisis. We cover the economic factors at play, affordability, supply, and demand imbalances, rising rents, a lack of social housing and disrepair across all tenures.

Host Alison Dunn is joined by Mark Henderson, Chief Executive of Home Group, Satty Rai, Member Engagement Manager at Northern Housing Consortium and Andrew Burnip, Director of Skylight Services at Crisis:

  • Mark Henderson is Chief Executive of Home Group, with over 120,000 customers across 55,000 properties in England and Scotland. Home Group is also one of the largest housing developers in the UK. Mark is currently a Board Member for Homes England and a trustee of Whiteley Homes Trust. He was also a former Board Member of the National Housing Federation and former Chair of Homes for the North.
  • Satty Rai is the Member Engagement Manager at Northern Housing Consortium. She delivers a suite of member engagement services to housing associations and local authorities across the three northern government regions, sharing best practice across housing policy areas and celebrating the great work of the sector. Satty works closely with and developing key relationships across key Government departments, other public, private and voluntary sector partners, to amplify the voice of housing in the North.
  • Andrew Burnip has worked in homelessness for over 29 years. In June 2015, Andrew joined Crisis, the national homelessness charity, as Director of Skylight Services in Newcastle transforming the building and the service locally and nationally. Andrew is currently the Interim Director of Operations at Crisis, covering Scotland, North & Central England.

001: The North’s Industrial Heritage

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In this episode, host Alison Dunn is joined by Liz Mayes, Jo Curry and Rob Charlton.

  • Liz Mayes joined The Mining Institute to lead the £7.1m National Lottery Heritage Fund Bid and resulting restoration works. She became Chief Executive of The Common Room in March 2019. Liz is also a trustee of Tyne & Wear Building Preservation Trust.
  • Former solicitor Jo Curry runs the Sir James Knott Trust which enables grants across the North East, is Vice Chair of Virgin Money Foundation and previously worked for VONNE, Changing Lives and Citizens Advice.
  • Rob Charlton is a highly accomplished CEO with over 25 years of experience in the built environment sector. Also, a chartered architect; Rob believes in the transformative power of design to create places that have a meaningful and lasting impact on people’s lives.